tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post2116641498342219337..comments2024-03-09T09:22:49.890+02:00Comments on Inhuman Experiment: Soy Isoflavones and Chili Pepper for Hair Growth – Experiment BeginsJLLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-33010243912875559042012-10-13T09:11:49.710+03:002012-10-13T09:11:49.710+03:00 the pictures from that paper for some reason, I r... the pictures from that paper for some reason, I recommend taking a look at the latter link. This combination is the one I will be testing.www.howtomakeyourhairgrowfasterr.comhttp://howtomakeyourhairgrowfasterr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-47295009229488947282011-11-21T23:55:52.055+02:002011-11-21T23:55:52.055+02:00Hey man, I'm doing some self experimentation t...Hey man, I'm doing some self experimentation too. I have many questions for you. My research so far has been around adaptagenic herbs. I am close to your age (mid twenties) and am curious about what you've learned.<br /><br />My experiments have so far been about avoiding toxic things (quit brushing my teeth with toothpaste for over a week, stopped wearing deodorant that contains aluminum or triclosan, refuse to drink or eat from plastic containers, won't eat or drink anything from a can, and won't use non stick cookware or eat popcorn popped in a bag) <br /><br />And taking adaptagenic herbs ( ashwagandha, ginseng, reishi, astragalus, Gotu Kola, jiaogulan, and rhodiola rosea)<br /><br />Growing medicinal mushrooms (reishi, lion's mane) December 2011 <br /><br />Taking antioxidants (coq10 - ubiquinone, n-acetyl-cisteine, zinc, red wine, green tea, wheat germ oil)<br /><br />Juicing<br /><br />High testosterone diet and a couple other things that are slipping my mind right now.<br /><br />If you wanna chat about it I'm on twitter @iwillescape or Richard at iwillescape dot com.Richardhttp://iwillescape.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-83361517007016073532011-08-28T20:03:01.782+03:002011-08-28T20:03:01.782+03:00@Anonymous,
There's an update post on the exp...@Anonymous,<br /><br />There's an update post on the experiment here: <br /><br />http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com/2011/04/soy-isoflavones-and-chili-pepper-for.html<br /><br />Yeah I've read about Monistat, I will do an experiment with that as well.<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-48213367537319604882011-08-26T18:33:40.997+03:002011-08-26T18:33:40.997+03:00@jll
Thanks for the fast response! I think I rem...@jll<br /><br />Thanks for the fast response! I think I remember the study you're talking about. I believe it was a specific part of the soy that had that affect I don't really remember what, but I think I've seen isoflavones themselves reported to act as an anti androgen as you said. Also, I've been looking for the original studies about the mice and humans. I feel like I read somewhere in there that the formula was injected into the scalp (I could be thinking of something else) which made me think topical would be good. I'll keep researching. <br />It's been about a year since you started the post... Have you had any success with your regimen? And have you heard all the buzz over monistat?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-44742092766737336072011-08-26T13:19:52.759+03:002011-08-26T13:19:52.759+03:00@Anonymous,
I don't know whether topical biot...@Anonymous,<br /><br />I don't know whether topical biotin or saw palmetto would work, especially when just using capsules, but they probably won't do any harm either. Biotin is in a lot of shampoos and conditioners. <br /><br />As for soy isoflavones, there's one study that found topical soy milk to *reduce* body hair growth. Now, that could mean that it works as an anti-androgen, in which case applying it on your scalp would be a wise move, or it could mean that topical soy reduces hair growth everywhere. <br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-54896004505527754692011-08-25T22:26:34.791+03:002011-08-25T22:26:34.791+03:00Hello,
I'm about to start a similar experimen...Hello,<br /><br />I'm about to start a similar experiment. I've heard about an old hair tonic from jalapenos and alcohol. Similar to ones posted above. I'm going to try it. I'm wondering what the affect would be if I added some soy isoflavone capsules into it. As well as saw palmetto, maybe biotin as well. Do you think this is a good idea? Not sure how affective they would be crushed and added to alcohol or if it's healthy or not. <br />Also, as far as making hairs terminal, there is a lot of talk about miconazole nitrate (active ingredient in monistat) in boosting hair growth and growing new hair as well as turning vellus hairs to terminal. I'll be trying that as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-54061905255391876032011-07-09T02:34:00.027+03:002011-07-09T02:34:00.027+03:00http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and...http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2894/2<br /><br />Peppers, hot chili, red, raw<br />1 pepper, 45 grams @ ~ .1 - 1.0% capsaicin = ~ 4.5 - 45 mg capsaicin.<br /><br />http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/spices-and-herbs/201/2<br /><br />Spices, pepper, red or cayenne<br />1 teaspoon, 2 grams @ ~ .1 - 1.0% capsaicin = ~ 2 - 20 mg capsaicin.<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17569567<br /><br />"5 months after oral administration of capsaicin (6 mg/day)"<br /><br />Oral intake of capsaicin could easily be overdone as concentrations in natural products varies widely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-62396604117416680092011-07-08T11:23:23.012+03:002011-07-08T11:23:23.012+03:00@Anonymous,
Interesting, thanks for the papers. T...@Anonymous,<br /><br />Interesting, thanks for the papers. They seem to be about using capsaicin topically however, not orally. I'm not sure you can easily consume too much capsaicin from chili peppers.<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-3366501084749082682011-07-08T02:39:49.437+03:002011-07-08T02:39:49.437+03:00some more reading re: TRPV
http://www.ncbi.nlm.ni...some more reading re: TRPV<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21593771<br /><br />TRPV3 activation by plant-derived (e.g., eugenol, 10-1,000 μM) or synthetic (e.g., 2-aminoethoxydiphenyl borate, 1-300 μM) agonists resulted in a dose-dependent inhibition of hair shaft elongation, suppression of proliferation, and induction of apoptosis and premature HF regression (catagen).<br /><br />I am using Pharmacist's Ultimate Health Cayenne Pepper Standardized Extract 1/2 - 1 cap/day with 1 cap/day NOW Soy Isoflavones with very good success. Not so much for hair loss but increase in IGF-1 as relates to blood pressure and anti-aging.<br /><br />So, just pointing out that the amount of capsaicin is critical and can easily be overdone with detriment to hair growth. The amount of isoflavones is not a worry as concerns decrease in androgen levels, libido, etc. <br /><br />Best of luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-28114267551255747282011-07-08T02:26:53.945+03:002011-07-08T02:26:53.945+03:00Overstimulation of the vanilloid 1 receptors with ...Overstimulation of the vanilloid 1 receptors with capscacin will inhibit hair growth. Less is more in this case. Simply guessing your intake is not suggested. <br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18769453<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15793280<br /><br />"The vanilloid receptor-1 (VR1, or transient receptor potential vanilloid-1 receptor, TRPV1) is activated by capsaicin, the key ingredient of hot peppers....<br />TRPV1 activation by capsaicin resulted in a dose-dependent and TRPV1-specific inhibition of hair shaft elongation, suppression of proliferation, induction of apoptosis, premature HF regression (catagen), and up-regulation of intrafollicular transforming growth factor-beta(2). Cultured human ORS keratinocytes also expressed functional TRPV1, whose stimulation inhibited proliferation, induced apoptosis, elevated intracellular calcium concentration, up-regulated known endogenous hair growth inhibitors (interleukin-1beta, transforming growth factor-beta(2)), and down-regulated known hair growth promoters (hepatocyte growth factor, insulin-like growth factor-I, stem cell factor).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-19292760746038763672011-06-15T11:38:10.090+03:002011-06-15T11:38:10.090+03:00@Anonymous,
I'm glad to hear your hair grew b...@Anonymous,<br /><br />I'm glad to hear your hair grew back. The thing with alopecia areata (which I assume it was in your case, since you only lost hair on one side of the head) is that it's much easier to fix than androgenic alopecia -- often the hair even grows back without doing anything.<br /><br />That said, some of the subjects in the study did look like they had alopecia areata, and soy + chili worked for them better than placebo.<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-61435222355654880072011-06-15T11:35:18.991+03:002011-06-15T11:35:18.991+03:00@xen,
That's an interesting experiment, altho...@xen,<br /><br />That's an interesting experiment, although not one I would try myself -- the only study I've seen on topical soy *reduced* hair growth. I've been meaning to do a post on that, will have to read the paper again. <br /><br />Keep us updated, though!<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-88842399006010124432011-06-15T07:45:37.243+03:002011-06-15T07:45:37.243+03:00Hello, well I guess I will put my 2 cents in becau...Hello, well I guess I will put my 2 cents in because I too have been with the experiment for over a year now and I must say that it definitely worked for me. I lost a lot of hair in a period of 2 months from one side of my head and all of the area above the ear was very scarce. So I started the treatment by taking the soy 9200mg)from vitamin shoppe and I made my own capsules from cayenne pepper. I bought the spice from the supermarket and I bought the empty capsules and filled them with a filler. I take 2 a day, one in the morning and one at night. I suggest you take them with really cold water and it does not burn. I also started adding 100 drops of rosemary essential oil to my 8oz shampoo and I am happy to say my hair is growing out. I can see all of the hair growing (it is now about 4 inches long. I also take saw palmetto (540 mg) from vitamin shoppe. I don't know what it was that worked but after one year I can say it has been a total success.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-46218952420945155802011-06-15T03:42:03.668+03:002011-06-15T03:42:03.668+03:00I am curious to this thread as I have always tried...I am curious to this thread as I have always tried different things in my hair... I googled soy isoflavones and came to this page... I am putting this (goftgel)capsule directly into my hair at about 10 pills per week. so far, I have seen a lot of new growth, but I am unsure if it is because of the soy, or the grapefruit essential oil I was using the month prior.xenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00603736484868590566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-64290572137035421762011-03-28T00:05:59.650+03:002011-03-28T00:05:59.650+03:00If you are experimenting with this ensure you are ...If you are experimenting with this ensure you are supplementing with Iodine. Google: Soy Isoflavones and Thyroid. <br /><br />http://www.livestrong.com/article/397609-soy-hypothyroidism/<br /><br />LWLWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-60380365944942610442011-02-16T02:37:48.011+02:002011-02-16T02:37:48.011+02:00Updates?Updates?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-61989529609653112982010-12-29T15:31:59.782+02:002010-12-29T15:31:59.782+02:00Merry Christmas, update please!?!Merry Christmas, update please!?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-67648194858715736262010-12-25T14:17:29.694+02:002010-12-25T14:17:29.694+02:00Hi JLL,
I as well am trying this routine, for abou...Hi JLL,<br />I as well am trying this routine, for about two and a half months now. As you mention i also have some difficulties digesting the capsaicin, taken in the form of cayenne pepper capsules (4 daily)..<br />I think in this perspective an other article published by the same group is worth looking at:<br /><br />'Effect of topical application of raspberry ketone on dermal production of insulin-like growth factor-I in mice and on hair growth and skin elasticity in humans'<br /><br />Apparently raspberry ketone, a molecule with an analogous structure and readily available on certain fitness sites, has similar effects as capsaicin without the typcal 'burning' sensation. An alternative worth considering...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-34288344229285913602010-11-04T10:46:41.560+02:002010-11-04T10:46:41.560+02:00@Anonymous,
The study on humans lasted for 5 mont...@Anonymous,<br /><br />The study on humans lasted for 5 months, so one bottle may not enough to see results. The problem with doing short experiments is that you spend the money but end up not really knowing whether it *would* have worked.<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-18688943550162867762010-11-04T06:32:25.704+02:002010-11-04T06:32:25.704+02:00I too have been undergoing the chilli and soy isof...I too have been undergoing the chilli and soy isoflavone experiment. I ran out of my bottle of isoflavones a week ago however, and was wanting your opinion on buying another? They're rather expensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-31474935826002077182010-10-13T10:05:04.620+03:002010-10-13T10:05:04.620+03:00There will be a proper update once I've finish...There will be a proper update once I've finished the bottle of isoflavones. For now, I can tell you that I'm having a difficult time eating my daily portion of chili powder! And I've switched from taking one capsule every day to taking one every other day and two every other day.<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-48605788781609598662010-10-13T02:45:15.255+03:002010-10-13T02:45:15.255+03:00I'd love an update on this experiment.I'd love an update on this experiment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-71220900415867214192010-10-07T21:38:40.060+03:002010-10-07T21:38:40.060+03:00How's it going ?How's it going ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-13166907704001506182010-09-19T17:55:56.673+03:002010-09-19T17:55:56.673+03:00@Anonymous,
From www.iherb.com. The shipping to F...@Anonymous,<br /><br />From www.iherb.com. The shipping to Finland is only $4 or so. Also, if you're ordering for the first time, you can get a $5 discount by using code "NEN423".<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-3746218135531021662010-09-19T06:52:22.934+03:002010-09-19T06:52:22.934+03:00Question from a Finnish reader: where do you order...Question from a Finnish reader: where do you order your NOW Foods products? Thanks in advance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com