tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post5632878533106749859..comments2024-03-09T09:22:49.890+02:00Comments on Inhuman Experiment: Fats and AGEs: PUFAs Are Even Worse than FructoseJLLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-45498678926248406722011-10-29T12:18:45.998+03:002011-10-29T12:18:45.998+03:00Hi, I stumbled upon your blog and I've been re...Hi, I stumbled upon your blog and I've been reading through the articles non stop for the past 2 hours.... I LOVE it.. So addictive! <br /><br />I find this post really fascinating. I switched to a mostly raw food diet because of AGE's and other toxins generated during the cooking process. But maybe you're right, maybe the AGE's generated inside our bodies matter more! It makes sense. <br /><br />What do you think about monounsaturated fats for cooking and salads? For some reason, I'm still scared of saturated fats, most mainstream nutritionists make it out to be the big dietary villian. I use olive oil for salads and Avocado oil for occasional cooking (has almost the same fatty acid profile as olive oil except a much higher smoke point). Olive oil is made up of oleic acid and the graph shows that oleic acid is much more stable than arachidonic and linolenic acid inside the body.. so why not use these instead of saturated fat for frying? Sorry if thats a dumb question, would be really interested to hear your opinion though..<br /><br />Have a great day- I can't wait to try out some of the experiments on your blog for myself! :) <br />- LauraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-66416061878402526552011-08-02T11:42:11.590+03:002011-08-02T11:42:11.590+03:00@gwarm,
Thanks for the links, I'll look into ...@gwarm,<br /><br />Thanks for the links, I'll look into them. I'm now watching DrGreger's latest video on antioxidants. The paper he refers to is interesting, but I'm no longer very impressed by antioxidants (especially when we're talking about ORAC scores). Where is the evidence that more antioxidants is better in vivo?<br /><br />For example, he says liver has less than antioxidants than a Snickers bar -- yet does anyone really think eating Snickers bars is healthier for humans than eating liver? I don't.<br /><br />Hormesis, which I believe is the key to any health benefits from antioxidants, follows an inverted J- or U-curve, it's not a straight line. Taking a thousand blueberry extract pills is not necessarily a good idea.<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-59059739624874848692009-11-08T23:07:44.132+02:002009-11-08T23:07:44.132+02:00ages in meat still ages in carbs crust ?now they f...ages in meat still ages in carbs crust ?now they found crust is full of antioxidans that counteract any agessternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18440603924775612376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-72357125528023720642009-11-08T23:06:00.131+02:002009-11-08T23:06:00.131+02:00ages in meat ? for a while they got also ages in c...ages in meat ? for a while they got also ages in crust carbs now they found crust is full with antioxidant that counteract any age effectsternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18440603924775612376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-29107343936294560672009-10-10T09:23:08.026+03:002009-10-10T09:23:08.026+03:00Jack, I've noticed that my blood sugar seems t...Jack, I've noticed that my blood sugar seems to get really low on occasion when i consume a lot of omega 3s-- especially when i consume a lot of chia or flax oil.<br />The reaction also occurs when I eat something with a ton a sugar-- <br /><br />I can't tell if this is a good thing to be so sensitive to sugar that I get hypo symptoms from omega 3 intake. One things for sure-- my joints always feel so good on flax oil-- without question! While i always seem to get cranky joints after eating potatoes or beans (which i don't eat much) -- flax oil is the complete opposite, making my joints feel like a well oiled machine. Also, I notice an increase in leg fidgetiness, not sure if I can classify that as being good.<br /><br />I just don't think we can dismiss the benefits to parent omega 3 intake (ALA). Your body then controls how much fully formed omega 3 to make (which is better than consuming fish oil which go rancid fast).Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14565481105849556142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-17695971464836046642009-10-10T04:07:24.459+03:002009-10-10T04:07:24.459+03:00PUFAs having a 2yr half-life confuses things.
I s...PUFAs having a 2yr half-life confuses things.<br /><br />I swear I have a reaction to too much n3s. To slopped together a theory, maybe it's a reaction involving the loads of n6s strapped to my body.<br /><br />In a recent post, Dr. Davis doesn't have great blood levels of n3s though he's been supplementing for long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-84999921018990971412009-10-10T02:42:29.206+03:002009-10-10T02:42:29.206+03:00I still wonder why our body takes the precursor AL...I still wonder why our body takes the precursor ALA and turns it to DPA and others if this was really a destructive process. Same thing was the conversion of LA.<br /><br />If polyunsaturates were just straight up toxic-- wouldn't we just leave them alone or try to oxidize them? Why would our bodies elongate them even further?<br /><br />I'm actually doing a month long experiment myself to see if taking 2 tbsps of UDOs choice oil (udo erasmas) gives me any beneficial effects. I hope you get a chance to check out his site-- or even his book for that matter. I've known about him for a while-- as well as ray peat-- but i really can't resolve the polyunsaturate issue-- I do know that keeping omega 6 low though is beneficial. <br /><br />Also, if you are not already familiar with him-- check out sethroberts.net he is the self-experimental king. You'll love to read his blog. In fact, he's done many tests on flaxseed oil-- you should look through his blog if you have the time.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14565481105849556142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-50313493194247775742009-10-09T23:03:39.620+03:002009-10-09T23:03:39.620+03:00I'm late, but in re: wound healing: there is ...I'm late, but in re: wound healing: there is evidence that day length has an adverse effect if sleep is reduced in accordance with seasonal changes at high latitudes. Check data on injured polar workers. <br /><br />Coconut fatty acid applied to some sorts of wounds (atopic dermatitis) will re-establish the acid mantle of the skin and bring about healing. This is good for other skin problems such as rosacea and eczema.<br /><br />Cocoa butter is also good for protecting wounds while they heal and reduces scar formation.<br /><br />As an aside: all of the 'liver spots' on the dorsal surfaces of my hands are due to burns from splattering oil or touching the edges of the oven etc. They shrink with time but remain as flattened melanotic scars. A life lived; not a liver spotted. :)<br /><br />g kadar<br /><br />torontoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-15439340589731165492009-10-09T19:29:09.194+03:002009-10-09T19:29:09.194+03:00@Aaron,
There seems to be a lot of debate over wh...@Aaron,<br /><br />There seems to be a lot of debate over whether diets deficient in omega-3 cause problems or not. I haven't had time to really dig into it yet, but I plan to do so.<br /><br />We do know that humans can synthesize Mead acid (an omega-9 fatty acid) when EPA/DHA consumption is extremely low. Some people say this is a good thing, others say it's bad (see Ray Peat vs. Mary Enig, for example).<br /><br />Definitely looks like no benefit from increased DHA in tissues -- quite the opposite. Some people consider lower cholesterol from PUFAs a good thing, but I don't. There's also some studies showing improved mental performance from EPA & DHA (at least in rodents), but I wonder whether this is a short-term benefit with possible long-term harm.<br /><br />Never heard of Udo Erasmus, before. Will check him out, though.<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-43162667804355013862009-10-08T04:12:15.555+03:002009-10-08T04:12:15.555+03:00fish oil and omega 3 requirements are interesting-...fish oil and omega 3 requirements are interesting--<br /><br />First, do other primates seem to suffer from their lack of omega 3? How many polyunsaturated acids are going to escape consumption from the bacteria in their multiple stomachs? <---- answer, not much!<br /><br />Human males don't seem to convert ALA to DHA much at all-- but then again, researchers have only looked at tissues- and not what is going on in the brain(because most people don't agree to brain biopsies.<br /><br />Most longevity studies do not show benefits to incorporating more DHA into tissues -- even the heart. So even if you lower the change of some type of heart problem-- you really aren't living that much longer.<br /><br />Lastly, do we really need DHA to keep our brains or eyes healthy? I know they have DHA in their tissues- but can they maintain their stores without outside intake. Given the amount of fat in our brains-- and the fact that it would have to have a high turnover rate-- I just don't see how we need to consume DHA to maintain our brain at all-- in fact, I think I remember reading that their is an increase in polyunsaturates in the brains of people who have alzheimers.<br /><br />The question is: how low should we go? Do we really need polyunsaturates?<br /><br />JLL -- besides balancing inflammation, have polyunsaturates proven any beneficial qualities? I have heard of faster wound healing with higher intakes-- but I just don't see how<br /><br />Also, what about UDO erasmus-- he consumes tons of polys-- and talks about all kinds of beneficial effects- I just don't see how he could be totally wrong.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14565481105849556142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-74694183678855579862009-10-07T21:12:17.263+03:002009-10-07T21:12:17.263+03:00@Aaron,
I agree that high levels of omega-3 are p...@Aaron,<br /><br />I agree that high levels of omega-3 are probably not needed, provided that omega-6 intake is low. I'm even beginning to be a little skeptical of fish oil (even though it does have many benefits too).JLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7049415900026167371.post-16929378718429297622009-10-07T20:09:16.717+03:002009-10-07T20:09:16.717+03:00Nice post! We're thinking on similar waveleng...Nice post! We're thinking on similar wavelengths. I've been too lazy to find any studies proving that PUFAs are the #1 problem and you show even more evidence of that. (I'm always lazy in finding studies to back me up, I could get more credit if I would just spend the time)-- I also share you sentiment that exogenous AGEs play less of a role in pathogenesis than endogenous AGEs.<br /><br />We need to figure the threshold for where polyunsaturate intake should be-- It's entirely possible that when you keep omega 6 way down, our need for omega 3 content goes way down. In face-- stephan at whole food source showed the benefit in keeping it at 4% of calories or less.<br /><br />Most people have so much omega 6 in their tissues though that they'd benefit from omega 3 consumption. Even when they are trying to lose weight they liberate omega 6 so they could use the balancing effect of omega 3.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14565481105849556142noreply@blogger.com